The Locked up Living Podcast

How do people survive living and working in challenging organisations? There are few peace-time environments that pose as much risk and danger as forensic institutions yet people and groups find ways to navigate the difficulties of existing within these systems and even manage to flourish and grow. Listen to Locked up Living with David Jones and Naomi Murphy who have decades of managing this experience talking to a broad range of guests who have a rich variety of encounters with some of the most oppressive institutions. Learn about some of the challenges to human integrity and hear some important lessons in maintaining the well-being and resilience of individuals and services in heart-warming stories about survival and growth when facing adversity in harsh places. We are keen to engage with our listeners so do follow and review us and if you have an idea for a podcast let us know. Multiple links below! In this weekly podcast we will be exploring a key issue such as: -How activiti...

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Wednesday Aug 25, 2021

Dr Sarah-Jane Lennie is a Chartered Psychologist and Lecturer in the Police, Organisation and Practice Department of the Open University, UK. Sarah-Jane specialises in social psychology, emotions in the workplace and the mental health and well-being of police officers.  
Sarah Jane comes from a family with deep experience and comittment to the public services including the army and the police force and this brings exceptional weight to her observations of the systemic deficits relating to emotional wellbeing.
Prior to returning to academia Sarah-Jane served for 18 years as a police officer, to the rank of Detective Inspector. Sarah-Jane is an Associate to the College of Policing, as a subject matter expert in mental health and organisational culture.  Sarah-Jane’s research focus is on supporting police officer’s emotional wellbeing through the exploration of officer’s lived experience and the impact of organisational culture on individual mental health.  Sarah-Jane looks at the role of stigma, emotional suppression and dissociation in the increasing cases of PTSD within British officers.  
 
This conversation is part of a double bill we release along with Paul Bradford's reflections on police call centres and emotional literacy and implications for the police service as a whole

Wednesday Aug 25, 2021

Paul Bradford was a serving police officer for thirty years rising to the rank of Inspector. As a single parent family he strove to manage his career to ensure that he was able to best look after his family. His time in community policing enabled him to spend time with victims of crime in ways since eliminated by the new managerialism. He brounght the insights and sensitivity that he gained to his research 'An Emotional Response: The theoretical case for the development of emotional literacy and procedural justice in police call handling.' In this conversation Paul talks about his research and some of the wider implications for police forces.
This conversation is part of a double bill we release along with Sarah-Jane Lennie's research on supporting police officer’s emotional wellbeing through the exploration of officer’s lived experience and the impact of organisational culture on individual mental health.  

Wednesday Aug 18, 2021

This is a powerful conversation which is sometimes painful to hear as Lucy describes the inequalities and persecutions for imprisoned mothers and their children. Dr Baldwin points out that the female prison estate is much more related to the needs of the prison service than the risk level of women themselves. The needs of their children are frequently ignored or given a low priority and she points out the importance of ‘academic activism’ in this situation.
(Don't forget to listen to Naomi and Davids final comments at the end.)
 
Lucy is a Senior Lecturer and researcher at De Montfort University. Lucy has worked in criminal and social justice for over 30 years being also a qualified social worker and probation officer.  Lucy’s research and publications focus predominantly on the impact of imprisonment on mothers and their children. Lucy’s Doctoral research focussed on the persisting impact of maternal imprisonment, particularly concerning maternal identity and maternal role. Lucy gave evidence to the recent female focussed farmer review and the 'Joint Human Rights Inquiry in Maternal Imprisonment and the Rights of the Child'. Lucy is currently researching the supervision of mothers and trauma informed probation practice.
 
 When Lucy published Mothering Justice in 2015 it was the first whole book in the Uk to take motherhood as a focus in relation to criminal and social justice. She says thankfully since then the world is more interested in the topic and in the circumstances surrounding criminalised mothers and their children. Lucy has published a number of articles and book chapters (some of her work can be accessed here https://www.nicco.org.uk/directory-of-resources/lucy-baldwin-works-on-maternal-imprisonment) and is currently working on three edited collections and two books - all related to women, mothers and justice. Lucy is a passionate and active advocate for positive change for criminalised women and would like to see a drastically reduced prison population and increased use gender tailored community  disposals. Lucy is working closely in partnerships with several organisations to provide resources and training for those working with criminalised mothers and mothers themselves.  

Wednesday Aug 11, 2021

Please note this is an audio recording. To see the video with pictures click here
https://youtu.be/rGmh58M0f-0
Jan Banning is a Dutch autonomous artist/photographer, based in Utrecht, the Netherlands.
He was born in Almelo (Netherlands) on May 4, 1954, from Dutch East Indies parents, and he studied social and economic history at the Radboud University of Nijmegen. Both of these facts have had a strong influence on his photographic works.
Banning’s work always has a social focus. The social political environment is put at the fore and it often concerns subjects that have been neglected within the arts and are difficult to portray: state power, consequences of war, justice and injustice. In this conversation we mainly talk about his work making portraits of prisoners in US prisons and in particular about Christina Boyer, wrongly imprisoned for the murder of her daughter. You can see more about this here
https://gogetfunding.com/wrongfully-imprisoned-for-her-daughters-death-the-book/
and read more about Jan below 
https://www.janbanning.com/

Wednesday Aug 04, 2021

Jo is a remarkable woman who has led an extraordinary life. Many would see her as being highly privileged but her description and understanding of the pain experienced by little children left in boarding school is painful to hear. She also speaks out about the sexual abuse which took place in Sherborne Prep School, in particular but not only, and how nobody was held to account despite the evidence.
 
"I guess you could describe me as a campaigner for justice for Boarding School CSA Survivors. 2009 to date. Calling for the urgent introduction of Mandatory Reporting of CSA in UK which most of the the rest of the world has had for some time.  You can see in Mandate Now https://mandatenow.org.uk/
 
Australia are setting a great example whilst U.K. drags its heels like a petulant child.
 
Sherborne is an excellent example of how a microcosm society with a Prep and 2 single sex Public Schools effectively covers up CSA (in the case of Lindsays) for over 100 years and it is very like the total abuse of power by Establishment in Jersey.  Absolutely horrific!  Money and power always prioritised over children’s lives forever."

Wednesday Jul 28, 2021

Christoph Heubner is a poet and writer of short stories. In addition he has had a long-term collaboration with the Action Reconciliation Service for Peace based in Berlin, he is Vice President of the International Auschwitz Committee and Member of the International Auschwitz Council. He has been associated with the International Youth Centre from the beginning, and is one of the founders of this institution in Oświęcim. (https://mdsm.pl/en/)
Auschwitz is a powerful representation of the extremes of cruel and harsh imprisonment and the ideologies underlying it. But it is not alone, there were examples before and since. In this conversation Christoph talks about the effect of imprisonment on people in its most concrete form, like Auschwitz and through the actions of oppresive regimes which at times can be more difficult to discern. He talks about his early lifein an Oxford night shelter and on becoming a poet. He describes his many years of involvement with Auschwitz and with the Youth Centre, including, as allegory and metaphor, many beautiful and poiingnant tales of survivors.
In his conversation he mentions several notable people and artefacts
Vasil Bykau was an outstanding writer who wrote about experiences in the Second World War and fought politically against the 'imprisonment of the mind' that the KGB imposed and continues to impose in Belarus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasil_Byka%C5%AD
The poem that Christoph mentions at the end is by Robert Frost, 'and so many miles before I sleep....'
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/42891/stopping-by-woods-on-a-snowy-evening

Wednesday Jul 21, 2021

Dennis Relojo-Howell is the founder of Psychreg, a digital company that focuses on psychology, mental health, and wellness and has almost 24k subscribers to his Youtube channel. Dennis is doing a PhD in clinical psychology at the University of Edinburgh focused on blogging as a wellbeing activity.  In March this year he won the competition “I’m a scientist get me out of here” which is an online programme that enables students to ask STEM professionals questions. In this conversation he tells his amazing story from being born in a Philippine backstreet to becoming a psychologist, developing his prolific website Psychreg and describing his ideas about resiliance and creativity.
https://www.psychreg.org/dennis-relojo-howell/

Wednesday Jul 14, 2021

Dr Roberta Babb is a chartered Clinical Psychologist, organisational consultant and a registered forensic psychotherapist. She and David first met when they both worked at the Millfields Unit, a forensic unit for working with men who had offended and who had personality disorders. That was about thirteen years ago so Roberta has worked in the field for a considerable time. Since then she has developed a number of creative initiatives, including some related to gang cultures, rather than settling into a conventional psychology post. In this conversation Roberta talks about her work, about racisim and about her determination to develop her own pathway where her individual contribution can be made.
 

Wednesday Jul 07, 2021

For this eposode we are delighted to be hosting Frans Douw and Edwin Kleiss who present the “Prison Show” podcast. Although the podcast is most often recorded in Dutch, there are a number of English episodes so we would encourage you to check it out below.At the age of 20, Frans began working with young incarcerated people before heading up the Dutch Psychiatric Pre-trial Assessment Clinic for 10 years. Between 1988-2015, he was director of several houses of detention, prisons for men and woman and director of the Forensic Psychiatric Centre of the Dutch Prison System. His last position was as a Governor of several penitentiary institutes for long-term (including life-time) incarcerated people.For the last 15 years, Frans has been involved in international knowledge exchange projects within the scope of incarceration and human rights with Russia, former Soviet countries, Great Britain, the Caribbean and the USA. This international involvement sometimes occurs due to his own initiative, but he’s also worked with the Dutch ministry of Justice, NGOs like the Global Initiative on Psychiatry and Mainline and the Council of Europe.
In 2011, Toon Walravens and Frans created the foundation of Recovery and Return. This foundation brings together victims, perpetrators, families and professionals and supports Restorative and Transformational Justice. The Podcast Prison Show which Edwin and Frans co-host is an activity of the foundation.
This is a link to our appearance on their Podcast which is in english as are these episodes,11, 21, 23, 29, 30, 39 and 44.
 
https://prisonshow.podbean.com/e/94-locked-up-living-podcast-with-naomi-murphy-david-jones-english/

Wednesday Jun 30, 2021

We were introduced to our guest, Lucy, by Professor Winder of Nottingham Trent University who found Lucy to be a powerful and compelling speaker.  This year she was invited to be key note speaker at the National Working Group tackling Child Sexual Exploitation.  Many of the guests we’ve had on have been keynote speakers at national and international events but Lucy stands out as her invite wasn’t a result of her forensic research or treatment expertise but as a consequence of a path of activism that she embarked on in relation to her own experiences and her need to protect the wellbeing of her children.  Lucy has a very important and moving story and we’re delighted to welcome her on to the podcast today to share some of her learning with us.

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